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Bhumihar and Sakaldwipi


Dear Brahmins It is interesting to note that Sakaldwipi Brahmins claims that Chankaya was a brahmin-possible. Bhumihars claims that Chankya was a Bhumihar with the fact that there are some bhumihars who associates themselves with Chanak. Buchanan calls Bhumihar as Magadh Brahmins and Military Brahmin Whereas the word Maga or Magadh is totaly associated with Sakaldwipi brahmins. I dont know about the history of Sakaldwipi or Bhumihar, but at the moment Sakaldwipis are Purohits for all the brahmins including Bhumihars. Kanyakubja Brahmins claims superior to a sakaldwipi but fact is that due to knowledge, wisdom and scholistic approach Sakaldwipi has high status. Bhumihar brahmins are landlord perform three duties prescribed for a brahmin. Originally the are Jujhootiya ( Warrier) and that is the reason a Jujhoutiya Brahmin Sahjananda Sarswati led Bhumihar Brahmin moovement. Swamiji was not against Sakaldwipi rather he was trying to unite all brahmins and farmers. It is difficult to know about Chankaya sect but Chankya was a Brahmin accepted. Kanyakubja has a great history and they are Panktipavan because of the fact that most of them are agriculrist or farmers. Saldwipi brahmin is my Purohit. I am a Bhumihar and we had a kanyakubja priest who was coming from Aara. But later when he was unable to come, We invited “Sakaldwipi Brahmins”. In my village Zamindar was Mr.Tiwari a kanyakubja brahmins,Jyestharaita (Big landowners)were Bhumihar and Sakaldwipi were purohit. No body is superior by caste. Janmana Jayate Sudra, Brahmansya sanskar Uchhayate.
Jnanabihin Brahmin Chandal hai.
I think. Suggestions are always welcome. Make a common ground for all brahmins.

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19 responses

  1. vikram

    i want to simply say that chanakya was a pure magadh brahmin i.e. bhumihar brahmin….& most importantly the sakaldwipis came to magadh during saka umpire under the rule of kushana & most importantly sunga & kanva empire were brahmin empires who were the original bhabhans…so people should know the historical facts..

    February 1, 2014 at 3:51 AM

  2. prem.kumar.pathak

    bhvisyapuran me sakaldwipi brahmin ke bare me varnan hai

    March 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM

  3. ए झा जो की अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए सही में लंका से आये हुये हैं. ए लोग राक्षसी त्रिजटा के वंसज हैं, ए ओ दोगले लोग हैं जिसे रवण के बाद उसके भई विभीषन ने लंका से निकल दिया था. ए लोग अभी भी राक्षसी प्रविर्ति के होते हैं.

    ए लोग मांस, मच्छली खाते हैं. जो लोग भी आज कल अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए मुग़ल की नाजायज सन्तान हैं. असली ब्राह्मण हिन्दुस्तान में दलित हैं.

    बिहार में एक रघुनाथ झा हुया करता था लालू का गां***ड़ चाटा करता था लालू ने उसकी मार के छोड़ दिया.

    एक ओर ब्राह्मण है बिहार में शिवानन्द तिवारी पहले लालू से अपनी मर्वता तत ओर आज कल नीतीश से मारवा रहा है. कल अगर फिर से लालू आ गया सत्ता में तो फिर उसके पास चला जायेगा.
    वैसे ओ भी खुद को ब्राह्मण कहता है.

    पर भई लोग जैसा की हम जानतें हैं की ब्राह्मण सुधहा शाकाहारी होते थे ओर आजकाल के जो ब्राह्मण हैं ए मांसाहारी है. आइसा इस लिये की ए मुग़ल मुशालमानों की नाजायज औलाद है….

    December 14, 2012 at 6:45 PM

  4. akjh

    kal aap logh bagwan brahma ko bhi bhumhar hi bata dijeygha

    December 14, 2012 at 1:45 PM

  5. akjh

    ravan bhumihar jarur thaa

    history main brahmin raja kabhi nahin raha hain

    bhumhar main
    darbangar naresh

    hutah mahraj
    yeh log king raha hain

    ravan bhumhar jarur ho sakta hain
    c

    December 14, 2012 at 1:44 PM

  6. akjha

    parful aap kaha ke brahmin hain
    bhumhair logh brahmin main kahe merge hona chatha hain
    aap logh kaunn sa vergetrian hain
    pura bhumhar non veg kahat hain
    apne jhoot bhakan kyon karte hain

    December 14, 2012 at 1:42 PM

  7. ए झा जो की अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए सही में लंका से आये हुये हैं. ए लोग राक्षसी त्रिजटा के वंसज हैं, ए ओ दोगले लोग हैं जिसे रवण के बाद उसके भई विभीषन ने लंका से निकल दिया था. ए लोग अभी भी राक्षसी प्रविर्ति के होते हैं.

    ए लोग मांस, मच्छली खाते हैं. जो लोग भी आज कल अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए मुग़ल की नाजायज सन्तान हैं. असली ब्राह्मण हिन्दुस्तान में दलित हैं.

    बिहार में एक रघुनाथ झा हुया करता था लालू का गां***ड़ चाटा करता था लालू ने उसकी मार के छोड़ दिया.

    एक ओर ब्राह्मण है बिहार में शिवानन्द तिवारी पहले लालू से अपनी मर्वता तत ओर आज कल नीतीश से मारवा रहा है. कल अगर फिर से लालू आ गया सत्ता में तो फिर उसके पास चला जायेगा.
    वैसे ओ भी खुद को ब्राह्मण कहता है.

    पर भई लोग जैसा की हम जानतें हैं की ब्राह्मण सुधहा शाकाहारी होते थे ओर आजकाल के जो ब्राह्मण हैं ए मांसाहारी है. आइसा इस लिये की ए मुग़ल मुशालमानों की नाजायज औलाद है.

    December 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM

  8. ए झा जो की अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए सही में लंका से आये हुये हैं. ए लोग राक्षसी त्रिजटा के वंसज हैं, ए ओ दोगले लोग हैं जिसे रवण के बाद उसके भई विभीषन ने लंका से निकल दिया था. ए लोग अभी भी राक्षसी प्रविर्ति के होते हैं.

    ए लोग मांस, मच्छली खाते हैं. जो लोग भी आज कल अपने आपको ब्राह्मण कहते हैं ए मुग़ल की नाजायज सन्तान हैं. असली ब्राह्मण हिन्दुस्तान में दलित हैं.

    बिहार में एक रघुनाथ झा हुया करता था लालू का गां***ड़ चाटा करता था लालू ने उसकी मार के छोड़ दिया.

    एक ओर ब्राह्मण है बिहार में शिवानन्द तिवारी पहले लालू से अपनी मर्वता तत ओर आज कल नीतीश से मारवा रहा है. कल अगर फिर से लालू आ गया सत्ता में तो फिर उसके पास चला जायेगा.
    वैसे ओ भी खुद को ब्राह्मण कहता है.

    पर भई लोग जैसा की हम जानतें हैं की ब्राह्मण सुधहा शाकाहारी होते थे ओर आजकाल के जो ब्राह्मण हैं ए मांसाहारी है. आइसा इस लिये की ए मुग़ल मुशालमानों की नाजायज औलाद है.

    December 10, 2012 at 2:55 PM

  9. Beggers don’t have choice…….

    December 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM

  10. akjha

    beacare ful from this caste bhumihar is not brahmin

    December 9, 2012 at 1:50 PM

  11. akjha

    mohyal is only brahmin bhumihar is not brahmin be alert from thi caste you don,t know about this card all moyal becareful
    am from bihar brahmin bhumihar is not brahmin ,becarefull from this caste ,bhumihar is not brahmin tyagi is not bhumihar,tyagi is pure barahmin bhumihar is only from bihar not any other state bhumihar is not brahmin pasruram is not bhumihar parsuram is only brahmin

    December 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM

  12. Hi Deepika,

    How old are you?
    If you are below 18 then you need to obey your family decision.
    but,
    If you are above 18 then you need to convince them, by saying that you will feel very happy with that guy and if you marry me with someone else forcefully then maybe I didn’t give them that much love which he deserve.
    So it all depends on you only. Sit with family member then try to convince them.

    I hope you you will succeed, best of luck.

    June 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

  13. Deepika

    I have a question about myself .i am a saryuparin brahmin girl and i want to marry a shakaldwipi brahmin boy . .but my family is against of this relation due to their brahminism theory’s . . I want to convince them
    Pls tell me how can i convince them

    June 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

  14. Abhishek

    Plz stop this cowardice on net… Each and every caste has undergone sanskritization, for it’s social upliftment, and the Bhumihars were the forerunners among them, this PARSHURAM story is very recent coined perhaps by Mr. Sahajanand Saraswati.

    There have been a number of stories run by them to prove there BRAHMINICAL status. Magadhi from some MAGA Brahmins, from Mohyals, from Chanakya and there are a numerous examples. You will see in History books, many castes tried to revive their social status by declaring them Kshatriya like KUSHWAHAS, KURMIS, YADAVAS.

    And, now no one really knows the root of their caste because of heavy intermingling among all the castes, there will be a great number of tall fair strong jawed people from other castes as well as black stockily built Bhumihars Rajputs and Brahmans. You just can’t claim purity, if any such thing exists.

    Now, what is so called superiority just based on some are more close to the westerners, I must tell them, you all have Mongol blood in you too. Rajputs got the heaviest intermingling. This notion which says westerners are only great shows how little confidence you have on yourself or in your birth. You practically hate yourself you are born here, you’d have loved had you been born a white American.

    Bhumihars are considered the back-stabbers in the state of BIHAR, some people say because they never lose and they keep on dominating that’s why. I want to make one thing clear, Rajputs have been dominating rest part of India, and no one calls them back stabbers, because those who are born MAN, never stab on the back. Only softy people (Mahini baat karne wale) are considered as cobra. Do consider this fact, and then only you can realize what’s wrong with your caste.

    One more thing, this casteism is more and more followed by Brahmins and Bhumihars and less by other castes such as Rajputs. Why just think. This psychological warfare implies how badly they want to divide our India. I don’t want to say I hate Brahmins, many of them are very very good people, I have very good friends from this society, but, I must say, I have never seen any Bhumihar who doesn’t think he’s superior whatever the hell it is he’s been doing his whole life. No doubt, their society is on such decline

    May 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM

  15. Upendra

    According to Jain literature, Chanakya was a Jain.

    According to Megasthenese, philosopher class of Magadha during Chandragupta time were of two kinds- Barman ( it is Brahmin) and Sarman (Shraman). The claim of Jain Shramanship of Chanakya gets strength, due to the fact that Chandragupta, himself accepted Jainism as his religion.

    The Jain Shraman claim of Chanakya gets weekened by the fact that a Jain Monk is not accepted to enter into warfare, because Jainism is for non violence.

    Chanakya cannot be a Bhumihar, because he did not have any property. He was (Aniket) having not home of his own. Bhumihar means someone grabbing land and administrating that. Bhumihar is essentially attached with those Brahmins who are strongly attached with landed property, while Brahmin (in its conventional meaning) is one who is not interested in owning property. Even Chanakya did not have his own property, not even his own home, despite being the Prime Minister and main adviser of Chandragupta.

    January 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM

  16. Ashwini

    @ pathak-what da heck” plz dont correlate those sakas from those of sakaldwipiyas” agreed u hv good knowledge of history but u should provide us literary & archeological sources as well – ashwini garg

    November 11, 2011 at 8:24 PM

  17. shubh kumar

    “Jnanabihin Brahmin Chandal hai.”
    One fact I also wonder that the most despised caste of Buddhism – Chandal vanished and Brahmins emerged in large numbers. To add to this many Brahmin saints – Parashar etc were chandal. Shankracharya learnt from a chandal and may also have been a chandal. Did Chandals convert into Brahmins when Budhhism weakened.

    June 19, 2011 at 11:13 PM

  18. SAURABH ROY

    history is distorted by you people sakaldipi brahmins are basically from sind and are medical experts and one of names of chankya was dramilla he was dravid brahmin and has not got good looks and it is mentioned in his documentry that chandragupta and his wife made comments on his look then he answered them by offerin them water from a golden pot instead of earthen pot to make them clear that looks dont matter and also bhumihars of bihar are from regional brahmin like around gaya are boudh converted brahmins giridih bhumhihars are chitpawan brahmins from maharastra and they have greenish eyes aswell as lighter tone and around bhojpur area area r saryupareen brahmins a class closely associated to kanyakubja brahmins but dont do rituals and arnd begusarai are mohyals of punjab

    April 29, 2011 at 5:39 PM

  19. pathak511us

    This is interesting write up but for readers knowledge, I would like to mention that Sakaldiwipi Brahmin and Bhumihar Brahmin’s association dates back Chandragupta’s history as both castes are related not from history of Bihar but since ancient time when all aryans started migrating from west mainly in Saka region somewhere an area between Afganishtan, Iran & Broken USSR states, Bhumihars are said tobe part of that region (saka). When Alaxander the great started coming towards India, Saka region was coming inbetween, although Sakas fought with Alexander’s army but were not as strong as them so sakas infomred this to Chanakya (a Sakaldiwipi brahmin, a brahmin of those areas ‘SAKA’)as he also belonged to that tribe and later on there was compromise giving details of history between Chanakya, Chandra Gupta (Scythian tribe, a greek tribe)and greece that is why daughter of Selucus was offerred to Chandragupta. Chandragupta is aslo refferred as saka, that is why many purans writers (mainly other brahmins called him ‘Kulhina’ in their purans). Details can be found out by search in details for ‘saka’. they have rulled Patliputra and they were not liked by ‘King Vikramaditya’ and he had killed ‘saka’ from patliputra to iran as they were considered threat to his kingdom.

    November 30, 2009 at 6:02 PM

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