Without a Living Ideal one gets concentric to his complexes
Mr. Michael : What is the way to attain this (realised) knowledge?
Shri Shri Thakur : The way is to become concentric. There is a need for a living altar, like Christ. Being self-concentric will not do. No conflict isthere, so no adjustment (of complexes) is possible.
Mr. Michael : Can it (knowledge) not be attained without a living altar?
Shri Shri Thakur : No!! I like those words in Bible. “I am the way, the truth, the goal, none can come to the father but by me.” I feel, all the teachings inBible are direct perception. No Literation, but education is there.
Mr. Michael : In Bible it is said that if a man gets the whole world losing his soul then what has he gained?
Shri Shri Thakur: If we are not concentric, our life-urge gets disintegrated through external impulse. One may do a lot of activities, but those do not get aligned towards the becoming. If we be keenly concentric and go about in that way, all our brain cells get adjusted accordingly along with what we feel.
Mr. Michael : So without a mediator, a man cannot be concentric to God?
Shri Shri Thakur : A man cannot make progress without being concentric to someone in physical form like Jesus. Otherwise he will be concentric to his complexes.
Mr. Michael : Is there no way to overcome these (complexes)?
Shri Shri Thakur: When a dog loves his master, he gets educated, starts getting adjusted. When a man loves someone, then all his complexes too get engaged in serving him depending on the intensity of the love. If a man does not get an Ideal then he moves around according to his own conception, the real conception about God never arouses in him.
[Ref: Alochona Prasange Vol.22, First Edition, 2002,
Excerpts from P288 to 291]
[Note : The original transcript is in Bengali and is
translated here by Subrata Ghosh. The words, highlighted in bold are, however,
originally used by Shri Shri Thakur Himself. Some key words/ lines are intentionally
highlighted in red.]